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Discussion of the Week: Elder Dragons

Hello, and welcome to Discussion of the Week: Elder Dragons!

First things first; not going to cover every Elder Dragon here because otherwise the blog would be gigantic, and I need to stretch my limited supply of ideas out.

Also I'm quite lazy.

So we're looking at the 1st and 2nd Gen Elders!

Lao Shan Lung

FrontierGen-Lao-Shan Lung Render 001

This came up in my 'big monsters' blog and weirdly my opinion hasn't changed at all since.



I want to like Fatalis; not the most original design in the world but it's suitably intimidating. Unfortunately Castle Schrade is the blandest bland area and Fatalis is extremely limited by its movepool - fireball, snap'n'drag, belly flop, and fly around a bit. Just dull.


MH4-Kirin Render 001

I find Kirin immensely frustrating to fight, but I have to admit that it's the best of the bunch so far. The hard skin is a massive irritation, the charge hitbox is a mile wide and the lightning is evil, but at least it doesn't make you fall asleep. Throw your controller away in rage, possibly.

Kushala Daora

MH4-Kushala Daora Render 001

I am a big big fan of Kushala Daora. Love the sleek metallic design, the wings almost the whole length of the body, even the wind use (though it can be a bit irritating). Nice movepool and a generally fun fight.


2ndGen-Chameleos Render 001

Well at least it's unique. The invisibility is either very cool or very annoying, depending on your point of view. I vary between them depending on my mood, but the poison attacks, windpress, stealing items, corrosive vomit, etc, all combine to make Chameleos... a frustration.


MH4-Teostra Render 001

Not bad, again a nice mix of moves, cool and interesting design - an almost leonine dragon. Plus those horns. You don't argue with those horns.

Yama Tsukami

2ndGen-Yama Tsukami Render 001

I like Yama a lot more than I think I should; the great concept and great design help make up for a pretty limited fight ('least in Unite). I guess I just have a weakness for giant flying octopuses.

Crimson Fatalis

1stGen and 2ndGen-Crimson Fatalis Render 001

Here Capcom had a chance to improve on the original, and... didn't really. It's like Fatalis, but now with extra hair-rending 1-hit-KO attacks (meteors) and armor mode, which only serves to drag out a fight you're not enjoying anyway.

White Fatalis

2ndGen-White Fatalis Render 001

See above, but replace 'meteors' with 'lightning bolts'.

(I think that sentence was literally White Fatalis' design brief...)


  • Favourite/least favourite?
  • Any you want to see back in MH4U (that aren't back already?)
    • What could be done to improve the less good ones?

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